Back on the old forums, there were several playlists dedicated to showing just how much money a user saved by getting GameTap by listing Virtual Console and XBLA games that were available as part of the regular service. Well, today, I'm going to do the same with Steam. GameTap is actually the main- and perhaps even only- reason that I'm hesitant to use Steam- the vast majority of games worth getting on Steam usually show up on GameTap shortly thereafter. So, here's a list of all the games that you get through GameTap that would cost you far more on Steam.

If you see any errors, including mislabeled prices, games removed from either service, or games that I overlooked, please inform me at once, and I'll fix it next time I look over this topic. Furthermore, if someone could add in the Tom Clancy games (which I'm having trouble deciding how to organize), I'd much appreciate it.

Disclaimer: Prices are accurate as of 2010/02/05; I am neither an associate of GameTap nor of Steam. This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by GameTap, Steam, or any of their associates. Myself, GameTap, Steam, and any related associates may not be held responsible for inaccuracies found herein.

• Age of Booty ($9.99) [Coming soon]
• Alpha Prime ($4.99)
• Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader? ($9.99)
• Armored Fist 3 ($9.99)
• Arx Fatalis ($4.99)
• Battlestations: Midway ($19.99)
• Beyond Good & Evil ($9.99)
• Call of Duty 2 ($19.99)
• CivCity: Rome ($19.99)
• Civilization IV: Complete and Civilization IV: Colonization ($39.99)
• Comanche 4 ($9.99)
• Commands 3: Destination Berlin ($6.99)
• DarkStar One ($9.99)
• Delta Force: Land Warrior ($9.99)
• Delta Force: Black Hawk Down ($14.99)
• Delta Force: Task Force Dagger ($9.99)
• Delta Force 2 ($9.99)
• Delta Force Xtreme ($19.99)
• Deus Ex: Game of the Year Edition ($9.99)
• Deus Ex: Invisible War ($9.99)
• DiRT ($19.99)
• Disciples II: Rise of the Elves, Disciples II: Gallean's Return, and Jagged Alliance 2 ($29.99)
• Dracula: Origin ($19.99)
• Earthworm Jim, Earthworm Jim 2, and Earthworm Jim 3D ($19.99)
• Evil Genius ($9.99)
• F-16 Multirole Fighter ($9.99)
• F-22 Lightning 3 ($9.99)
• Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics ($19.99)
• Farcry and Farcry 2 ($14.99)
• Flock! ($14.99) [Coming soon]
• Frontlines: Fuel of War ($29.99) [Coming soon]
• Full Spectrum Warrior and Full Spectrum Warrior: Ten Hammers ($14.99)
• Gothic 3 ($14.99)
• Gumboy Crazy Adventures ($14.99)
• GUN ($19.99) [Coming soon]
• Heroes of Might & Magic V ($29.97)
• Hitman: Codename 47, Hitman: Blood Money, and Hitman 2: Silent Assassin ($19.99)
• Hospital Tycoon ($19.99)
• Hotel Giant 2 ($17.99)
• Infernal ($9.99)
• Insecticide: Part 1 ($9.99)
• Jack Keane ($19.99)
• Just Cause ($14.99)
• Kane & Lynch: Dead Men ($19.99)
• Loki ($19.99)
• Maelstrom ($19.99)
• MiG-29 Fulcrum ($9.99)
• Mission: Runway ($9.99)
• Mr. Robot ($9.99)
• Overlord ($5.99)
• Painkiller ($9.99)
• Patrician III ($14.99)
• Penumbra: Overture ($9.99)
• Port Royale 2 ($4.99)
• Prince of Persia collection. Note that Steam lacks the original trilogy, whilst GameTap lacks Prince of Persia 2008. ($44.99)
• Psychonauts ($9.99)
• PuzzleQuest: Challenge of the Warlords ($9.99)
• Race Driver: GRID ($24.99)
• Railroad Tycoon 2: Platinum ($4.99)
• Railroad Tycoon 3 ($9.99)
• Rayman: Raving Rabbids ($9.99)
• Red Faction II ($9.99)
• Restaurant Empire 2 ($19.99)
• Ride! Carnival Tycoon ($9.99)
• RIP Trilogy ($4.99)
• Rise of the Argonauts ($39.99)
• Rogue Trooper ($9.99)
• Rollercoaster Tycoon 3: Platinum ($29.99)
• Runaway: A Road Adventure ($9.99)
• Runaway: The Dream of the Turtle ($14.99)
• S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl ($19.99)
• Sacred Gold ($9.99)
• Sacrifice ($9.99)
• Sam & Max Complete (Seasons 1 & 2) ($59.99)
• Second Sight ($9.99)
• Shadowgrounds and Shadowgrounds: Survivor ($19.99)
• Shattered Union ($9.99)
• Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened ($19.99)
• Sid Meier's Pirates! (2005) ($9.99)
• Silverfall Complete ($24.99)
• Soldiers: Heroes of World War II ($9.99)
• Space Empires IV and Space Empires V ($19.99)
• Street Fighter IV ($39.99) [Coming soon]
• Sub Command ($19.99)
• Thief: Deadly Shadows ($19.99)
• Titan Quest Gold ($19.99)
• Tomb Raider: Anniversary ($19.99)
• Tomb Raider: Legend ($19.99)
• Trine ($19.99)
• Tropico 3 ($39.99)
• Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War - Gold Edition and Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War - Dark Crusade ($29.99)
• The Witcher ($39.99) [Coming soon]
• X-Com: UFO Defense ($4.99)
• X2: The Threat ($4.99)

TOTAL COST: 1575.05 USD

That's enough to purchase nineteen one-year premium subscriptions to GameTap. And I can assure you, that by time those nineteen years are up, this list will be far, far longer (assuming both services in question are still around come that time). Compounded upon is the fact that this list barely scratches the surface of what's available on GameTap, including the console games which Steam is unlikely to ever get.

Also you should note that Steam doesn't work in what it considers DMZ zones which appearantly includes my apartment. Also they have a huge problem with peoples accounts being hijacked as well as numerous technincal problems.

jeez i'm so glad that gametap is only 9.99 no matter what game you play.

samuraiwarrior41 wrote: jeez i'm so glad that gametap is only 9.99 no matter what game you play.

It's even less in the long run if you get a yearly subscription.

Quote: Deathknight928 wrote: Also they have a huge problem with peoples accounts being hijacked as well as numerous technincal problems.

Yup. And I was one of those hijackees! You'll never catch me anywhere NEAR Steam again!

Rayven998 wrote: Quote: Deathknight928 wrote: Also they have a huge problem with peoples accounts being hijacked as well as numerous technincal problems. Yup. And I was one of those hijackees! You'll never catch me anywhere NEAR Steam again!

What happens to your account if it gets hijacked? I have never heard of this before.

man i hope gametap stays forever, i don't know what i'll do if it just vanished.
cuz you guys are the only ones that i can play arcade games, well i should'nt say the only ones, but gametap is cheap and x box live arcade will cost me like 200$ if i want to download multiple games.

Afrancio wrote: Rayven998 wrote: Quote: Deathknight928 wrote: Also they have a huge problem with peoples accounts being hijacked as well as numerous technincal problems. Yup. And I was one of those hijackees! You'll never catch me anywhere NEAR Steam again! What happens to your account if it gets hijacked? I have never heard of this before.

Nothing much except all the games you bought are gone. And your account wil probably be sold on EBAY. I bought Medieval:Total War 2 back in December and I still haven't got it to work on my computer. The tech support guy keeps sending me links to the FAQ. Thank goodness Tyrion isn't like that!

MarioFanaticXV wrote: TOTAL COST: 1575.05 USD

My single only complaint about GT is that not everything (but it's slowly getting there...) is 64-bit OS ready...

BUT BUT BUT... (before anyone flames me...)

That $1575 in savings can easily be used towards a second system, or dual-booting your system between 32-bit and 64-bit OS versions...

If I was more of a gamer, I'd just dual-boot...

I haven't used GT at all since my new machine (10 months now...), but I won't drop my subscription, either... And I already have 300 games tied to my Steam account...

Since you really only rent the games in GT I suppose it's a potential negative (and I think it makes it harder to mod GT games???), but then again I'd say Steam's really only a rental service as well, since you can never re-sell any of the games tied to the acct...

I'm a bit too impatient waiting for more games to be 64-bit ready, so I think I'm just going to dual-boot, or put a 32-bit OS on this machine and keep it for GT when I upgrade to a new system...

I'd also like to add that I feel a little guilty using GT...

It's so cheap, and the games are still just as big (many GBs), that I feel guilty using the bandwidth to download games... So, I haven't...

On my old 32-bit machines sometimes I would download a game just to fiddle around with it for maybe an hour... I hated using GT's bandwidth for that, even if I am paying for it, as the service is so cheap...

I think my sub avg to $5/month... Don't know how GT keeps it so cheap...

MarioFanaticXV wrote: [*]Prince of Persia collection. Note that Steam lacks the original trilogy, whilst GameTap lacks Prince of Persia 2008. ($44.99)

http://store.steampowered.com/sub/1184/

Maybe I'm confused, I thought Steam had 'em?

I'm surprised so many of the games I own on Steam are in your list... I definitely would have saved enough to just be dual-booting...

(I'll stop babbling now, but thanks for the time putting the list together...)

Tolyngee wrote: MarioFanaticXV wrote: [*]Prince of Persia collection. Note that Steam lacks the original trilogy, whilst GameTap lacks Prince of Persia 2008. ($44.99) http://store.steampowered.com/sub/1184/ Maybe I'm confused, I thought Steam had 'em?

Forgive me if my words were unclear: There are two Prince of Persia trilogies, the original, and the Sands of Time trilogy.

The original trilogy, not available on Steam, consists of the following three games:

Prince of Persia
Prince of Persia 2: The Shadow & the Flame
Prince of Perisa: Arabian Nights

However, Steam offers this title, which is currently unavailable on GameTap's subscription service (although, obviously can be bought as a "Download to Own" title):

Prince of Persia (2008)

Wow, that's some old stuff...

Not much of a gamer, so didn't know what all was out there...

Afrancio wrote: Rayven998 wrote: Quote: Deathknight928 wrote: Also they have a huge problem with peoples accounts being hijacked as well as numerous technincal problems. Yup. And I was one of those hijackees! You'll never catch me anywhere NEAR Steam again! What happens to your account if it gets hijacked? I have never heard of this before.

I got back from a week's vacation last fall and found that someone had used my acct to download over $185 worth of games! Tech support was absolutely no help whatsoever. It was basically "oh well, that's the chance you take". Suicided my acct, haven't been back since.

Don't sell Steam short. A couple of you had unfavorable experiences... Rough. Use stronger passwords. Also, I've known players who were able to have their accounts restored, so the idea that you lose it permanently because somebody gets into your password is inaccurate.

Gametap is not Steam.

Steam is not a subscription service.

You do not "get" Gametap, you rent it, and lose all of these titles when you drop it.

Not sure why anybody would compare the two.

SonicBoysterm wrote: Gametap is not Steam. Steam is not a subscription service. You do not "get" Gametap, you rent it, and lose all of these titles when you drop it. Not sure why anybody would compare the two.

Nobody is comparing the two, if you read the title of the thread, it's "Reasons to get GameTap instead of buying off Steam".

Plus Gametap does have a download to own service.

Yeah. Just don't buy Star Trek Online from it.

Or Elven Legacy. Not that you can right now anyways.

The reason is simple, you get your play of the games without paying even 5% of what they are worth. No reason for a list, that's just the way it is...

Codeguru

Plus, as has been stated many times before, Steam sucks!

Well least the steam versions of those games will run on my system. If you have 64-bit your fairly hosed on GameTap. So far half the 64-bit games they do release won't even run, both the Dracula and Sherlock games crash at start, Imperial glory suffers from random crashes.

I subscribe to Gametap, and I buy games on Steam. Both are great services that have their own purpose. Trying to compare them directly is very difficult.

Gametap gives a much broader variety of games for the initial investment, but I don't want to play most of the games on Gametap anyway. On the other hand, with no worries about not liking game, I'm much freer to try something I don't think I want to play, and have sometimes ended up really liking a game I tried just for the heck of it.

Gametap's subscription sometimes works against me because I'm a fickle gamer. I go through periods where I don't play as many games. Every month I don't play Gametap is a month I've paid for (since I have a yearly subscription) and not used. If I were solely buying games off of Steam, any time I don't spend playing, is just that much longer before I need to spend money to buy my next game.

If you play a lot of games or don't have a firm grasp of what kind of games you like, then Gametap is fantastic.

If you don't finish games as fast, or really like to replay old games, or are willing to wait for games to go on sale (and Steam has frequent sales) then Steam can sometimes be a better option. Take, for instance, Titan Quest Gold. I took more than 2 months to finish a run-through on normal difficulty (and didn't even continue on to the harder levels). That was $10 out of my $60 a year. I've seen Titan Quest Gold on sale for $5 three times in the last two years on Steam (more times if you count Direct2Drive as well). If I ever go back to replay TQ on Gametap, it makes my subscription less valuable (to me). If I go back to play a game on Steam, it means I'm getting more out of what I've spent.

Different services, different business models, different types of value. All depends on what type of gamer you are.

I also use both services mainly due to the different libraries and the multiplayer support system. While there are the many titles on both lists some you can figure will never show up on GT (Valve, Id, EA, LucasArts). Also, there are great community tools at STEAM. Friends list, chat, voice, multi player we just dont have here at GT. I'd love to see both these change but we will just have to wait and see.
I still think GT is a great service and one important feature has been left out of the discussion. Sub-Accounts. This is huge in my estimation. When i was first shopping GT I simply didnt believe it. YOu mean if i sign up i can give access to all these games to 5 other people for no additional cost? YEAH!
So my wife (puzzles and card games) my sons (RPG and adventure) my granddaughter (kid and family) and a friend (shooters) all have accounts for my one annual fee. Thats an awesome value.

MarioFanaticXV wrote: Back on the old forums, there were several playlists dedicated to showing just how much money a user saved by getting GameTap by listing Virtual Console and XBLA games that were available as part of the regular service. Well, today, I'm going to do the same with Steam. GameTap is actually the main- and perhaps even only- reason that I'm hesitant to use Steam- the vast majority of games worth getting on Steam usually show up on GameTap shortly thereafter. So, here's a list of all the games that you get through GameTap that would cost you far more on Steam. If you see any errors, including mislabeled prices, games removed from either service, or games that I overlooked, please inform me at once, and I'll fix it next time I look over this topic. Furthermore, if someone could add in the Tom Clancy games (which I'm having trouble deciding how to organize), I'd much appreciate it. Disclaimer: Prices are accurate as of 2010/02/05; I am neither an associate of GameTap nor of Steam. This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by GameTap, Steam, or any of their associates. Myself, GameTap, Steam, and any related associates may not be held responsible for inaccuracies found herein. Age of Booty ($9.99) [Coming soon] Alpha Prime ($4.99) Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader? ($9.99) Armored Fist 3 ($9.99) Arx Fatalis ($4.99) Battlestations: Midway ($19.99) Beyond Good & Evil ($9.99) Call of Duty 2 ($19.99) CivCity: Rome ($19.99) Civilization IV: Complete and Civilization IV: Colonization ($39.99) Comanche 4 ($9.99) Commands 3: Destination Berlin ($6.99) DarkStar One ($9.99) Delta Force: Land Warrior ($9.99) Delta Force: Black Hawk Down ($14.99) Delta Force: Task Force Dagger ($9.99) Delta Force 2 ($9.99) Delta Force Xtreme ($19.99) Deus Ex: Game of the Year Edition ($9.99) Deus Ex: Invisible War ($9.99) DiRT ($19.99) Disciples II: Rise of the Elves, Disciples II: Gallean's Return, and Jagged Alliance 2 ($29.99) Dracula: Origin ($19.99) Earthworm Jim, Earthworm Jim 2, and Earthworm Jim 3D ($19.99) Evil Genius ($9.99) F-16 Multirole Fighter ($9.99) F-22 Lightning 3 ($9.99) Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics ($19.99) Farcry and Farcry 2 ($14.99) Flock! ($14.99) [Coming soon] Frontlines: Fuel of War ($29.99) [Coming soon] Full Spectrum Warrior and Full Spectrum Warrior: Ten Hammers ($14.99) Gothic 3 ($14.99) Gumboy Crazy Adventures ($14.99) GUN ($19.99) [Coming soon] Heroes of Might & Magic V ($29.97) Hitman: Codename 47, Hitman: Blood Money, and Hitman 2: Silent Assassin ($19.99) Hospital Tycoon ($19.99) Hotel Giant 2 ($17.99) Infernal ($9.99) Insecticide: Part 1 ($9.99) Jack Keane ($19.99) Just Cause ($14.99) Kane & Lynch: Dead Men ($19.99) Loki ($19.99) Maelstrom ($19.99) MiG-29 Fulcrum ($9.99) Mission: Runway ($9.99) Mr. Robot ($9.99) Overlord ($5.99) Painkiller ($9.99) Patrician III ($14.99) Penumbra: Overture ($9.99) Port Royale 2 ($4.99) Prince of Persia collection. Note that Steam lacks the original trilogy, whilst GameTap lacks Prince of Persia 2008. ($44.99) Psychonauts ($9.99) PuzzleQuest: Challenge of the Warlords ($9.99) Race Driver: GRID ($24.99) Railroad Tycoon 2: Platinum ($4.99) Railroad Tycoon 3 ($9.99) Rayman: Raving Rabbids ($9.99) Red Faction II ($9.99) Restaurant Empire 2 ($19.99) Ride! Carnival Tycoon ($9.99) RIP Trilogy ($4.99) Rise of the Argonauts ($39.99) Rogue Trooper ($9.99) Rollercoaster Tycoon 3: Platinum ($29.99) Runaway: A Road Adventure ($9.99) Runaway: The Dream of the Turtle ($14.99) S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl ($19.99) Sacred Gold ($9.99) Sacrifice ($9.99) Sam & Max Complete (Seasons 1 & 2) ($59.99) Second Sight ($9.99) Shadowgrounds and Shadowgrounds: Survivor ($19.99) Shattered Union ($9.99) Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened ($19.99) Sid Meier's Pirates! (2005) ($9.99) Silverfall Complete ($24.99) Soldiers: Heroes of World War II ($9.99) Space Empires IV and Space Empires V ($19.99) Street Fighter IV ($39.99) [Coming soon] Sub Command ($19.99) Thief: Deadly Shadows ($19.99) Titan Quest Gold ($19.99) Tomb Raider: Anniversary ($19.99) Tomb Raider: Legend ($19.99) Trine ($19.99) Tropico 3 ($39.99) Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War - Gold Edition and Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War - Dark Crusade ($29.99) The Witcher ($39.99) [Coming soon] X-Com: UFO Defense ($4.99) X2: The Threat ($4.99) TOTAL COST: 1575.05 USD That's enough to purchase nineteen one-year premium subscriptions to GameTap. And I can assure you, that by time those nineteen years are up, this list will be far, far longer (assuming both services in question are still around come that time). Compounded upon is the fact that this list barely scratches the surface of what's available on GameTap, including the console games which Steam is unlikely to ever get.

Ya might have a valid point if Gametap wasn't broken,the forums are lit with people having many many problems & with many of the games you just named. "Just check the active forum list". Oh & you will get ZERO tech support or customer support from Gametap as well. But w/e floats your boat,I'm glad "you're" happy with Gametap.